Need a Flukin' lesson,,, Macojoe ??

stripminer

Junior Member
Joe,

I have been fishing my whole life but just last year started trying my hand at Fluke. I bought a great book by Bob Sampson and think I have a handle on it.

But around this site you are the flukemeister, so here is my request.

If you came to CT to fish for fluke what would you look for as to areas to drop a line ? Depths etc. I guess I'm looking for Fluke 101 if are willing. I was able to catch one or two last year but really want to learn. I hope you have time.

Thanks,
Tom
 
strip, I could help you out, BUT, you asked MJ and I'm not one for stepping on anyones toes...and after all he is the flukemiester.
 
please chime in phester...... I am merely paying homage to the man who seems to be in the know. I am open to all input !!!! Especially since you are "across the way " from me !!!
 
Re: Need a Fluking' lesson,,, Macojoe ??

I am far from the master!! and anyone who has some good techniques need to chine in!!

I find that the sandy areas are were they are. The smaller fish will be in the shallow water 20' to 40'

I look for drop offs, just when your line goes over one you will get slammed!~!

The bigger fish like the deeper water!! 40' to 100' They also seem to like some kind of structurer, like a wreak or something of that nature.

For the smaller fish I use a Floro leader of 30# about 36" with a squid skirt, and squid strip. With a fish finder with anough weight to hold bottom.

The bigger fish like big bait! I like to use 4 to 5oz Bucktails jig's tiped with squid.

The trick with jigs is that you want to try to hold the line stright up and down!! If it gets to far away from you it just does not work.

Bigest Fluke is 13 pounds, taken on Live Scup drifting for Bass.
I have repeated this a few trimes with smaller fish 9 & 10#
But this means using the smaller scup like 4 to 6 incjes which is illeagle in most places!! Mass it is 9" commercial and 10.5 for recreational.

Color skirts vary from white, yellow, to glitter

other bait, sandeels, Mackrel chunks on the big ones, mummy chubs, clams, but by far the best bait is fresh Fluke Belly!!

Hope that helps
 
uallRe: Need a Flukin' lesson,,, Macojoe ??

strip, my technieques are very similar as to what MJ does. I dont get into waters 100 ft., its just not that deep in my "local" fishing spots. Probably another common rig to use is an Aqua-clear rig.It has a high hook and a low hook and a dropper loop for the appropriate sinker. Hooks are commonly dressed in a choice of colors, I personally prefer white/red then dress hook w/ the good ol squid/spearing combo. Put the spearing on first, right thru both eyes, then about a 5/6" piece of squid strip.I usually cut a 1-2" split on the end of the squid strip just for a little bit more of a natural look. Then like MJ said, pending on wind and or current try to drift up [or down] any decent drop-off. Also, try to keep your line as vertical as poss. and give a lift every so often,I usually get them on the lift. A quality fluke[5-6lbs.] will feel like youre lifting a big wet towel off the bottom. My personal record is about 9lbs., that's when you start to call them doormats. Good luck, go get em!
 
I use to make the high low rigs also. But I hated getting the 2nd hook stuck in my hand when unhooking the fish!!

Also depending how fast you are drifting you will want to adjust your bait leanth.
I like a longer bait in slow water (4" to 6") and short bait in fast water (2' to 4")
when your moving fast you will get a lot of hits and misses. Shorten the bait to make the fish come up on it more to reach the hook.

Now go get them!
 
good points MJ, and yes ,be advised of that 2nd hook. My friend was releasing a 3foot sand shark and lost his handle on him.The "'shark" hooked hiself in the tail which then the high hook got my buddies finger. the shark was trying to swim away further burying the hook into poor Brads finger. after a few choice words and basic first aid we got back to fishing
 
yum yum I can't wait to see how they catch!!

What no fish report from last night?? You must have got shunked!! :o
 
We did okay. Lots of Bass to 25 lbs. The bite was on for most of the evening. We got back to the ramp at right about midnight. Eels are still my favorite Striper candy. ;D 8)
 
Fluke belly is a very good bait indeed. Those darn canibals! Beware of the laws in your state waters regarding the use of fluke belly though. I know in NC, you can use one legal sized fish for bait, AND you have to save the skeleton to prove that you obtained the fluke belly from a legal fish. That was how it read a couple of years ago. I imagine its the same today.

My biggest flounder is only around 5 lbs. I hope to post some pics one of these days!
 
Hey guys I have a buddy that lives in South Carolina...he says hes never heard of Fluke. Are they down that far or further North? He just got into salt water fishing so he just may be unaware of em. I mentioned to him that yall catch alot of em on the east coast and he wanted me to check into it.


What gives?
 
You asked now read!! ;D

Description
The summer flounder, or "fluke", a flatfish noted for its fighting ability and flavor, is found in coastal waters from the southern Gulf of Maine to Florida. Important recreational and commercial fisheries for this species occur from Cape Cod to Cape Hatteras, North Carolina.

Like other species of flatfish, the fluke has both eyes on one side of its head and rests on the ocean floor on its side. The fluke is called a left-handed flatfish because its eyes are on the upper surface of the head when the fish is facing left. The species has a very large mouth that extends below and beyond it eyes.

Summer flounder are called the chameleons of the sea because of their ability to change color to match the bottom on which they are found. Generally they are white below and darker above, but they can turn various shades of gray, blue, green-orange, and almost black. The upper part of the fluke's body is marked with scattered spots that are darker than the general body color.

The angling record for summer flounder in Massachusetts is 21 pounds 8 ounces. Although the largest fluke may weigh up to 26 pounds, the average adult weighs 2 to 5 pounds and measures 17 to 25 inches long. A 15 to 16-inch fish, which is only 2 to 3 years old, weighs about 1 to 1 1/4 pounds. A 20-inch fish is about 3 to 3 ½ pounds, a 30-inch fish would be 10 pounds, and a 37-inch fish would be approximately 20 pounds. Females may live up to 20 years and weigh more than 20 pounds, while males rarely exceed 7 years of age and 3 to 5 pounds in weight.

Both males and females become sexually mature at the age of 3. The fecundity (number of eggs produced in a single spawning season) of females increases with size and weight. A 14-inch female produces about 460,000 and a 27-inch female about 4,200,000, eggs in a season.

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Habits
Summer flounder inhabit inshore areas of Massachusetts during the warmer periods of the year. Fluke prefer eelgrass beds and wharf pilings because of the protection they offer. When threatened, they quickly bury all but their beady eyes in the sand or escape at surprisingly high speeds. In the summer, small and medium-sized adults are found on the sandy and muddy bottoms of bays, harbors, and along the open coastline. Most of the larger fish tend to stay in somewhat deeper water (50 to 60 feet). With the approach of fall, summer flounder migrate to more offshore waters in depths from 150 to more than 500 feet.

Reproduction takes place in the fall, as soon as the fish begin to migrate to wintering grounds, Peak spawning activity occurs from early September through early November in water temperatures of 53 to 66 degrees F and at depths of 60 to 160 feet. The center of spawning activity occurs off the coasts of New York and New Jersey, with less concentrated activity occurring in southern New England waters.

The eggs float in the water column, hatching 72 to 75 hours after being laid. After hatching, the larvae are carried into bays and estuaries where they will spend the early portion of their lives. Autumn water-circulation patterns in southern New England tend to distribute surviving larval fish southward along the coast, resulting in the virtual absence of young summer flounder in Massachusetts waters.

The summer flounder, which depends upon sight to capture its food, feeds most actively during daylight hours. Juveniles feed upon small shrimp and other crustaceans, while adults eat a variety of fish, including small winter flounder, menhaden, sand lance, red hake, silversides, bluefish, weakfish, and mummichogs, as well as invertebrates such as blue crabs, squid, sand shrimp, opossum shrimp, and mollusks. Adult are very active predators, often chasing schools of small fish to the surface and leaping out of the water in pursuit of them. This behavior clearly distinguishes the summer flounder from the other more sluggish species of inshore flatfish


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Management
Historically, the summer flounder has been among the most important commercial and recreational flatfishes on the East Coast. The commercial catch in Massachusetts has been modest compared to catches along the mid-Atlantic states, but the population summering in Massachusetts coastal waters faces an intensive offshore otter trawl fishery in the winter and spring. Commercial catches in the southern part of the fluke's range were stable from the 1950s to the early 1970s, while those in the northern portion of its range persistently declined over the same time period. In 1974 it was estimated that total commercial and recreational harvests exceeded a level that should be sustained for any extended period of time. Despite this caution, total harvest has exceeded the 1974 level in the 1980s.

Recreational fishing has always been a major component of the total fluke harvest, often exceeding commercial catches in the Mid-Atlantic States. The recreational catch ranged from 26 to 60% of the total harvest from 1979 to 1984 on a coast-wide basis. Certain regions have historically supported tremendous recreational fishing. One such region, the Great South Bay of Long Island, reported as many as 2,000,000 fluke landed yearly during the late 1950s and early 1960s. The total coastal recreational catch from 1979 to 1984 ranged from 5,000,000,000 to 18,900,000,000 fish.

Although populations' levels in the 1980s have been somewhat higher than they were in the 1960s and 1970s, persistently high harvest levels may once more reduce this species' abundance. The Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission developed a Summer Flounder Management Plan that was adopted by coastal states from Massachusetts to North Carolina in 1982. This plan established a minimum legal size limit of 14 inches to protect this important coastal fishery resource
 
Well NOW I know what the heck y'all have been talking about: FLOUNDER! Yum Yum, fried, baked, broiled, my favorite is stuffed with crab meat. I'm a lot better at eatin' 'em than catchin' 'em! ::) ;D
 
Summer Flounder are larger then Flounder and have some sharp teeth!! Becareful around them they are sharp!!

The above is copied from DMF site.
 
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