V21 for sale in NJ....Pricy, but..

bgreene said:
Destroyer.........here are a few suggestions.......assuming you're not too brittle:
1. Calm down, we're joking around here. My reference to all the food talk getting in the way of a good argument should have been obvious - humor, not anger.
2. Let's not stray towards foul language.
3. Yup, I still think people shouldn't make negative public comments in ref to another guys item for sale.
4. Relax. Don't take this stuff too seriously. I'll be " pissed " if I list my boat and you
tell everyone that my price is " too much" but other than that, who cares really.
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1. I was joking, that's why I made the comment about agreeing with you....Thought it was obvious. (hmmm...maybe you're the brittle one?) :p
2. You mean the "don't give a damn?" I'll refrain from further comments like that. Sorry, didn't realize you were so sensitive.. (I suggest that you use the Purex liquid soap... it's for sensitive skin)
3. I understand your point of view, really I do, but here's a hypothetical question for you. Suppose I see a boat for sale, and it has what is, to us, an obvious flaw. Are you saying that I/we/you shouldn't make a negative public comment in ref. to the other guys item for sale? If that's the case, then who do we best serve..the public?.. or the seller?
4. Actually the thought crossed my mind that it WAS your boat for sale and that's why you were taking the high and mighty road.

How 'bout these:
Ford or John Deere? JD
Costa Del Mar or Maui Jim? CDM
Bacon or Sausage? Bacon
Blonde or Brunette? Redhead
Honda or Toyota? Jeep or Land Rover
PC or Mac? PC
Busch Lite or.....awe hell no, we ain't goin back there!! :cen: No lite beer gets my vote except "maybe" Sam Adams...and that's a stretch.
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Arm and Hammer for the clothes... it makes them smell clean & fresh.

(And Honey-Mustard Sauce is great for dipping chicken in...just not for BBQ)
 
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Destroyer - now I know what that name means........

Destroyer of other guys opportunities to sell their boats........or at least diminish that opportunity.

So let's see now, this is an internet forum about Wellcraft V boats.
Assume you have one too. I do.

Two different V's for sale - two separate listings
1. You tell the first guy - for all to see that he's asking too much money.
2. You copy and paste another guys listing and tell us all it's " too pricey"

You're either a spy of some kind, or your mission is to bring down the selling prices of these boats. Tell you what .......put your V up for sale, and I'll do likewise and make my mission to tell everyone that you're asking too much money, should be cheaper.

Only thing is - I don't do that sort of thing. Get it now or still too much lead in the way ?
 
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Wow there has been alot going on.....

Purex instead of Tide....same effectiveness, half the cost.

Vinegar based BBQ is not my favorite....breaks my friend from Florence's heart but it is what it is....

And how soon will it be before Bgreene or Destroyer calls the other an F'in Wanker?
 
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bgreene said:
Destroyer - now I know what that name means........

Destroyer of other guys opportunities to sell their boats........or at least diminish that opportunity.

So let's see now, this is an internet forum about Wellcraft V boats.
Assume you have one too. I do.

Two different V's for sale - two separate listings
1. You tell the first guy - for all to see that he's asking too much money.
2. You copy and paste another guys listing and tell us all it's " too pricey"

You're either a spy of some kind, or your mission is to bring down the selling prices of these boats. Tell you what .......put your V up for sale, and I'll do likewise and make my mission to tell everyone that you're asking too much money, should be cheaper.

Only thing is - I don't do that sort of thing. Get it now or still too much lead in the way ?
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Look up the thread(s) on how people got their names and you'll see what my name really means. I neither create nor destroy other peoples opportunities for anything.

Seems to me that only a fool would let someone else tell them how much they should or should not spend. Like I've said before, ultimately, the true value of an item is what a person is willing to pay for it. That price is set between the buyer and the seller.

Now, in your example, what would be the gain to me if I was to say that both boats were too costly? The only way I could gain would be to become a buyer of one of them. But it would hurt me when I went to sell my boat. So it makes no sense. Since I read tons of ads daily and do know what these boats are selling for on average, then I should be allowed, like everyone else here, to express that opinion.

I've also made comments in the past that I thought that people got their boats at a steal when someone paid less than what I thought a boat was worth. Do you think the buyer should then go back to the seller and give them more money based on what I said?

My boat is a 78 in reasonably good shape, but I'm not a fool with some kind of delusion of it's worth. I know that, as she sits right now, and in this present economic market, she's worth somewhere between 2 and 4 thousand. When I sell her, I'll ask higher than that, and try to present to the buyer why she is worth what I'm asking. The buyer, on the other hand, will try to present to me why they want to pay less. No matter what anyone else may or may not have said or printed the final price will be what the two of us argee on. That will be it's true market value.

If you're talking about that guy that wanted $14+ grand for his boat, then if you read the post you'll notice that I was not the only one that expressed the opinion that he was asking too much. (I still have the same opinion btw). As to this post, I started this thread with the comment that the boat was too pricey for me, but I STILL WOULD HAVE LIKED TO BUY IT IF I COULD HAVE AFFORDED IT. I never said the boat was not worth the money, or that the seller was asking too much from other people, just that he was asking too much as it related to MY wallet.

Really isn't that what every single one of us do with every single purchase we make? Be it a house, car, boat or groceries from the store....if we can afford something and we want it and buy it then the item was set at the right price. If we walk away from it then the item was too high. But we only make that decision at the time of purchase.

As a further example, right now my wife and I are looking at new washers and dryers since ours were destroyed in the flood. We've finally narrowed it down to a few different models of Matag front loaders. The prices for the same model vary significantly between different retailers. The one that has the best price will get our business. It has nothing to do with what someone else did or did not tell us to pay.

I understand the point you're trying to make, really I do. I know that you're looking to sell your boat sometime in the future and that you'll want to get the most money for it that you can, but truthfully, what I'm trying to show you is that nothing that someone else says here or somewhere else will effect the price you sell it for. Only you, as the seller and someone else, as the buyer will be able to establish the true market value of your boat.

There is a saying that opinions are like a$$holes, everyone's got one. Your opinion and mine just happen to be at odds on this subject. It's like saying that one BBQ is better than another's. It's only an opinion, and it's impossible to prove. My opinion is that we should just eat the BBQ and not worry about who's right or wrong. :head:

(Pass the corn on the cob please):beer:
 
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Mustard is for hotdogs, that's it. And I don't care for dry rubs either. I use a mixture of some sweet BBQ sauce(a tomato based one, NO vinegar sauce for me), lemon juice, and lOTS and lOTS of smoke in the smoker for mine. When I dod ribs, I marinate them overnight in my sauce and lemon juice mixture(with some secret herbs and spices), then they get smoked in my cabinet smoker. And I don't like my ribs to have a smoke ring in them, but to be completely smoked through the meat. About 2/3rds of teh way through I will immerse them in the marinade again and leave em in it for about 30 mintes in the top of the smoker in the marinade. Take em out of the marinade and then finish em off for about 30 minutes over 250 degree moist heat to make the sauce into a glaze on em. I have yet to find somebody who doiesn't like em. I've even had a vegetarian before that ate them and loved em.

Heres some I did awhile back.
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Talk about a thread derail.
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Even though I am extremely busy, I will make time and volunteerily be the guinea pig here, send me a rack.
 
Looks like I missed the fireworks. Everyone has an opinion.



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Mom's pie is best. Chess pie is my favorite but her key lime is to die for. I prefer them made with limes of an ever bearing lime tree instead of the fickle key limes that are prevalent in SFL. Mustard IS for Brats, Vinegar is for salad dressing and cleaning electrical connections, Red sauce is where its at for me on the Q.
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Yep, sauce has to be tomato based. NO and I mean NO vinegar sauce for me. I don't care for teh taste of it, and it tear my ulcers up BIG TIME! SONNYS has a good sweet sauce available in most big chain stores that is a pretty good base to use.
 
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When I don't have time or access to make the Lexington style I normally buy a bottle of Sweet Baby Ray's Hickory and Brow Sugar and cut it by almost half with water. It thins it out a bit given that it is very thick straight out of the bottle.

Hard to beat some good ribs no matter what you put on em (or don't put on em)!
 
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