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Dear Friends: There are less than 7 months until election day when the people will decide who will be the next President of the United States . The person elected will be the president of all Americans, not just the Democrats or the Republicans. It's time that we all need to come together, Democrats and Republicans alike. In a bi-partisan effort for America : If you will support Mitt Romney, please drive with your headlights ON during the day. If you support Barack Obama, please drive with your headlights OFF at night. Together, we can make it happen. Thank you!









 
as much as i dislike obama, this romney is a real piece of sh!t. he's a union busting scumbag. i would have supported any other republican running against obama but this i can not do.
 
Does this mean i can help by busting headlights on cars with obama stickers? :bat: :bat: :bat: :bat: :bat: :bat:

WTH?!?!?!?! I did not capitalize obama and got the squiggly lines meaning i mispelled it. So i clicked it and the suggestion was "Obama". Keep in mind i am running Windows XP Pro that is six years old.
 
Between o and Romney is sort of like choosing a $2 hooker. they will both do you, but which one will do the least amount of damage to you in the process. Romney is nothing more than obama light though, so the choices are just as bad this go round as well.
 
Just my two cents among friends, Obama is a flat out socialist, with four more years of his big government control you will not recognize America. Your children will suffer the consequences of a nation gone from liberty and a Constitution hating POTUS.
The economy will crash, we will be right in line with the European socialist governments where the majority is dependent on the government for their very existence and will be willing to trade their liberties for more free sh!t from Obama's stash.
And yes the Republicans in general do not favor public sector unions that spend millions for the re-election of left wing zealots that can do anything they want to this nation as long as they support legislation that pushes union people further ahead of their civilian counterparts doing the same level work.
the people who are paying for these contracts pensions etc.
While I understand many in these unions feel they are being targeted, I also understand that the only real answer to these issues is a national right to work law in which people in the unions will have a choice on the matter of forced membership.
This of course is an outrage to the unions, sorry, it is as anti American as you can get to force and American to be in a union he does not agree with, pay money to be used to elect politicians he cannot stand under threat of first, lost of employment and second outright violence and thuggery if he wants to get out.
Obama and his ilk are literally destroying the fabric of this nation and are dividing us along color, ethnicity, religion and income levels.
They are doing it on purpose, it is called group and identity politics.
It is how a political group controls the people through distraction and envy of others.
We are better than that.
While I did not have Rommney as my first pick but he was the first pick of a majority of American's voting in the primaries and as they say that is that.
He is not perfect, but in my humble opinion he is so far ahead of the Great Divider as a leader and as someone who will turn around our economy that to pull the lever for a devout socialist in what may be the most important election in our nations history is as close to crazy as I have ever heard.
What single thing has the Obamination done in the past three in a half years that you feel has done something to further our nation, further our liberties, further our economy, reduce our debt. get the government out of the people's life, and bring our nation together?
Tough question huh?
 
no willy, not a tough question...... an impossible question. the man is history's most charming liar. he is truly out of his element as president. while i agree with 99% of what you wrote, quite frankly i wish they would both just go away.
that said i will vote for none of the above. that may be a wasted vote or favor one candidate over the other but i cannot, in good conscience, vote for either one of these a$$holes.
as far as "the people" paying for my pension and benefits, 6% of my weekly paycheck goes towards my pension. another 6% goes towards railroad retirement. 6% to my 401K and 457K. yes, for all those keeping count, i bring home 52% of my paycheck each week, after all the other deductions. yup. that's right. 48 percent of my paycheck goes to somebody else. and i havent had a pay raise in several years.
so really, obama...... romney...... they both blow. i'll take none of the above.
 
Sadly my friend we are often left with the lesser of two evils.
I wish a true Tea Party candidate had gotten the nod but as usual I did not get my wish.
I would say to you that there is one thing for certain that we all know. The socialist liar we have in now is destroying our nation. And not having to be answerable to the voters if he gets re-elected will go balls to the wall to stick us with that agenda.
We also know for sure we cannot go another year, let alone four with the out of control spending and monstrous debt we have now.
We also know that the Liar in Chief is in control of the most expansive seizure of power by the federal government in our history and just in the promulgation of regulations alone we as a nation are suffering.
So if no reasons other than these we can agree on, I would like to make a friendly suggestion to you.
If you can't vote for an individual because he does nothing for you, at least vote against what is destroying us.
Every man and woman in this country that values what our nation stands for, what our fore fathers fought for and for the future generations chance at having the American Dream, needs to get into the booth this November and kill the track to European Socialism. That is the cliff we are about to spiral into.
We cannot leave the next generation that inheritance after what we have been given.
 
Charlie, just curious, why do you support unions? It seems that with the creation of OSHA, EPA, and laws against discrimination based on race, sex, and AGE the unions serve as a redundant, outdated system to fall back on when the system itself fails. To ME it seems you are taking your job security away from corporate management and placing it in your union bosses hands who will determine when you will work.

With all of the money you put into savings every week, why do you not just buy stock in the company you work for? If their policies are such that you need the union to protect you from their corporate greed, you could benefit from that greed on the backside through dividends. Maybe you do now and if so it would seem you would be in a quandry with your union.

I have family that live in New Jersey and rely on the unions to put them on the docks in Philly where they haul cargo so what I know of unions is probably very different than your life's experiences so I would like to hear your side of what unions do for you.
 
Charlie, just curious, why do you support unions? It seems that with the creation of OSHA, EPA, and laws against discrimination based on race, sex, and AGE the unions serve as a redundant, outdated system to fall back on when the system itself fails. To ME it seems you are taking your job security away from corporate management and placing it in your union bosses hands who will determine when you will work.

With all of the money you put into savings every week, why do you not just buy stock in the company you work for? If their policies are such that you need the union to protect you from their corporate greed, you could benefit from that greed on the backside through dividends. Maybe you do now and if so it would seem you would be in a quandry with your union.

I have family that live in New Jersey and rely on the unions to put them on the docks in Philly where they haul cargo so what I know of unions is probably very different than your life's experiences so I would like to hear your side of what unions do for you.

Tartuffe, there are different kinds of unions... some are what I will call piecemeal unions, (Jobshops) like the carpenters or the ironworkers, others are in house unions, like the IBEW for power & light companies, or the Transit workers, like the Engineers and conductors for the MTA. Charlie belongs to the later type of union, so he's not dependant on the union bosses for the next job like the piecemeal types of unions.

The rest of this post was supposed to be right after Willys first post. Unfortunately, the server timed out before it would post, and then I had to leave my desk and go do something for my company so I didn't get a chance to repost it. It was written in response to and in support of Willys first post, so if it seems a little out of sync, blame the server :)


And that is exacty why you need to pull the lever for Romney. He was not my first choice either, but when you stack what he had done in his lifetime against what the imposter has done in his lifetime the choice is obvious... I'll take Romney every time.. it's no contest.


Look...here, in a nutshell, are your choices:


You can vote for the imposter... you will be voting to turn America further into a Socialist Country, loss of more of your freedoms, loss of more jobs, higher taxes, and more than likely the onset of the worst recession in our Country's history (Including the great depression). This is a man that spent his entire life surrounded by avowed marxists, both as friends and as professors that he learned from. A man who, to this day, has people like that as his closest advisors. A man who has spent more money in his first 3 1/2 years as president than all the other presidents in our Country COMBINED!! An admitted drug user in college (Weed and Coke). A racist, bigoted, bloviated, ignoramus who doesn't understand the first thing about business or running a Country. A man that is weakening our Country by cutting our military to the bone so he can help pay for a bunch of free giveaways to over 50% of the population that pays no taxes. (He's buying their votes). (And stealing your money in the process)



You can vote for Romney... you will be voting for an avowed capitalist who has made a fortune in the business world. He has an 80% success rate for turning companies around and making them profitable, creating tens of thousands (yes thousands) of jobs in the process, including Staples, Sealy, Brookstone, The Sports Authority, and Domino's. Also, in late 1998, the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City was rocked by a bribery scandal that threatened the Games. (The top two officials in the Salt Lake Organizing Committee had to resign). The games were facing a $379 million deficit because sponsors were pulling out. Since they were short on money and many venues hadn't been built yet, politicians, business leaders and International Olympic Committee officials were suggesting the games be cancelled or moved to another location. Because of his record for turning around businesses in the past, Romney was asked to take over the failing Olympics; he became the CEO for the 2002 Winter Olympic Games in February of 1999. He refused a salary and even donated $1 million of his own money to the cause. He then streamlined the games by cutting costs and eliminating waste like fancy perks. Romney also brought in $180 million in revenue from new sponsors and broke the record for raising private money for an Olympics - winter or summer. In the end, the Olympics were a success and the games actually turned a $100 million profit. Romney saved the 2002 Olympic Games.

Much has been said of his tenure as Governor of Mass, so lets look at the record. He became governor of Massachusetts in January of 2003, and faced an immediate budget crisis. The state had a $650 million shortfall and was facing a projected deficit of $3 billion the following year. Romney came in and cut spending and eliminated waste in government by cutting out duplication and inefficiencies. In one case he consolidated 15 different human service agencies, all doing basically the same thing. He also cut the number of state employees. He raised some fees but did not raise taxes and he balanced the budget every year. (The unemployment rate in Massachusetts also fell from 6.3% when he took office in January of 2003 to 4.6% by June of 2007, the end of his last fiscal year). He also passed healthcare reform covering nearly everybody in the state, and did so without raising taxes and using private sector insurance. All of these things are easily found on the internet if you just look. They are facts, not just the hyperbole that his opponents are throwing around trying to make you vote for the imposter by getting you to fear Romney.

He's far from perfect, but I know that my freedom and my Country's very existance will be safe under his reign. Truthfully, I cannot say the same under the imposter.

So you can vote for the imposter, you can vote for Romney, or you can decide to not vote (Which really is a vote for the imposter) I hope you vote for Romney, even if you don't like all of him. There's a lot more to like than dislike. (And the future of your children depends on YOUR vote)
 
Tartuffe, there are different kinds of unions... some are what I will call piecemeal unions, (Jobshops) like the carpenters or the ironworkers, others are in house unions, like the IBEW for power & light companies, or the Transit workers, like the Engineers and conductors for the MTA. Charlie belongs to the later type of union, so he's not dependant on the union bosses for the next job like the piecemeal types of unions.

thanks destroyer.
yes tartuffe, this is my situation. while i must admit my union doesnt carry the strength it once did, it continues to fight for our rights and work rules as well as representation when the company wants to discipline us. our union is several thousand strong and although our local doesnt like to flex its muscles the way it once did we are still pretty powerful.
 
The screwing we got is nothing like the screwing were going to get if we give that more on another 4 years.I'm not saying Romney would be any better.But Obama needs to go.
 
The screwing we got is nothing like the screwing were going to get if we give that moron another 4 years.I'm not saying Romney would be any better.But Obama needs to go.

Then I'll say it for you... Romney will be a LOT BETTER!! He may not be perfect, but he's a smart, savvy businessman who, unlike Obama, is not interested in making the USA into the next Marxist state like Russia. Make no bones about it. Obama is not trying to make the USA into a European Style Socialist Country. Obama is trying to make the USA into a Marxist (Communist) style Country. And once we become that, we will NOT be able to change back, because if you open your mouth you'll be jailed or killed in the name of state security. If that's what you want for your kids, and your grandkids, then vote for Obama. If, on the other hand you want to remain free men, then vote for Romney. The choice is just that simple.
 
Just one problem. All the people who want to "keep the momentum" (going downhill). Yall know who i am talking about. All the newly registered voters who registered to vote just to get a black man in the white house.

Remember obamas slogan "change"? It stands for "come help a n*****r get elected"
 
the problem i see is that every small group of individuals that belong to what ever group that believes in what ever bizarre beliefs, thinks obama is going to be their voice. If they are a bunch of goat humping inbred midgets, they think that obama is going to give all the goat humping inbred midgets equal standing to goat hump when ever they want to, with equal rights to all the non goat humping midgets out there. it seems that people that don't agree with certain standards or morals, become a group of minorities that empower a person like obama, they all think he's going to carry their torch so they can do what ever they want, whether it be illegal, immoral, or yes, fattening(just a joke there). Now their are so many small group of minorities, that all believe they are the chosen ones, they outnumber the majority groups
 
the problem i see is that every small group of individuals that belong to what ever group that believes in what ever bizarre beliefs, thinks obama is going to be their voice. If they are a bunch of goat humping inbred midgets, they think that obama is going to give all the goat humping inbred midgets equal standing to goat hump when ever they want to, with equal rights to all the non goat humping midgets out there. it seems that people that don't agree with certain standards or morals, become a group of minorities that empower a person like obama, they all think he's going to carry their torch so they can do what ever they want, whether it be illegal, immoral, or yes, fattening(just a joke there). Now their are so many small group of minorities, that all believe they are the chosen ones, they outnumber the majority groups

Unfortunately true, whiich is exactly why EVERY person that can vote needs to vote.. otherwise you let the goat humping imbred midgets win...and the rest of the Country looses.
 
I think some of you "right-wingers" should reflect on the contents of this and some of the other related threads. To preface, I consider myself conservative. I voted for Santorum, and will vote for romney in the general.

Posting long-winded threats about what Obama is going to do if elected makes you sound like a kook. Why not discuss what has and hasn't been done in the last three years.

Making bigoted remarks about Obama supporters removes all your credibilty.

If you make these posts just to let off steam, just know that it damages others opinion of you. If you really wanna convince people or change minds in these internet discussions, try being a little more persuasive.

I'm not referring to every post in this thread, but I was very discouraged after reading it. Be a positive influence; not a hateful fear-monger.
 
I think some of you "right-wingers" should reflect on the contents of this and some of the other related threads. To preface, I consider myself conservative. I voted for Santorum, and will vote for romney in the general.

Posting long-winded threats about what Obama is going to do if elected makes you sound like a kook. Why not discuss what has and hasn't been done in the last three years.

Making bigoted remarks about Obama supporters removes all your credibilty.

If you make these posts just to let off steam, just know that it damages others opinion of you. If you really wanna convince people or change minds in these internet discussions, try being a little more persuasive.

I'm not referring to every post in this thread, but I was very discouraged after reading it. Be a positive influence; not a hateful fear-monger.
I agree and well said, if you dislike our snide-arse President as I do we need to be much more eloquent in our hatred. Lets not alienate those we need in order to win the vote and save this country.

OK OK I've been drinkin and I post in jest, but to get back to the subject of what this fella has done over the last three years: too much to type but I'll start it off;

For a few measly millions, Wall Street not only bought itself a president, but got the start-up firm of B. H. Obama & Co. LLC to throw a cabinet into the deal, too — With unemployment still topping 9 percent, the catastatic world economy teetering on the brink of another, even larger financial catastrophe, and trillion-dollar U.S. deficits as far as the green-shaded eye can see, let’s hear it for Obama’s first National Economic Council director, Lawrence Summers (of hedge-fund giant D. E. Shaw and venture-capital firm Andeersen Horowitz), who has had some nice paydays courtesy of Lehman Bros., JPMorgan Chase, and Citigroup. Let’s hear it for Citigroup’s Michael Froman, deputy assistant to the president and deputy national-security adviser for international economic affairs, for Hartford Financial’s Neal Wolin, deputy Treasury secretary, for JPMorgan’s William Daley, Obama’s chief of staff, and for his predecessor, Rahm Emanuel of Wasserstein Perella. Let’s hear it for Fannie Mae’s Tom Donilon, national-security adviser. (No, seriously: One of the luminous interstellar geniuses who brought Fannie Mae to its current aphotic state of affairs, upside down to the tune of trillions of dollars, is running national security, and the former director of the White House Military Office, Louis Caldera, was on the board of IndyMac when it finally went toes up — sleep tight, America!) And, lest we forget, let’s have three big, sloppy cheers for economic-transition team leaders Robert Rubin (Goldman Sachs, Citigroup) and folksy tax enthusiast/ghoulish billionaire vulture Warren Buffett.

These are the same guys whose financial institutions manipulated home buyers into buying homes they had no business buying because they could do it using FDIC insured loans. They then bundled these loans and literally bought the triple A ratings on mortgage backed securities and sold them. Then they continued to make money on these fraudulent loans betting on their demise.

When did it begin??? When Clinton told America that every American deserves a home.


March 1995 – Less than 2 months after becoming Secretary of the Treasury, Rubin asked Congress to repeal the Glass-Steagall Act and to change the Bank Holding Company Act of 1956. (Regulation that came about as a result of the Great Depression)
White House Is Joining in Efforts To Loosen the Limits on Banking
The Clinton Administration plans to call this week for legislation that would allow commercial banks, securities firms and insurance companies to merge, forming giant financial services companies that would offer everything from checking accounts to mutual funds and life insurance, Federal officials say.
In a speech prepared for delivery in New York on Monday and in Congressional testimony scheduled for Wednesday, Treasury Secretary Robert E. Rubin will urge Congress to repeal the Depression-era Glass-Steagall Act, the officials said. For more than 60 years, the law has forced financial concerns to choose between owning commercial banks or owning securities companies like brokerage firms and investment banks, but not both.
Mr. Rubin also plans to call for broad changes in the Bank Holding Company Act of 1956, which has effectively barred most financial concerns from owning both commercial banks and insurance companies, said the Federal officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity. Mr. Rubin’s speech will represent the first time that the Administration has taken a position on eliminating the legal and regulatory barriers among financial industries.
Regulatory changes in recent years have already allowed commercial banks, like Citibank, to begin selling stocks and mutual funds on a limited basis. But the Glass-Steagall Act still bars Citibank, for example, from merging with a brokerage firm like Merrill Lynch or an investment bank like Goldman, Sachs, which provides corporate investment advice and helps companies issue stock. The Bank Holding Company Act bars Citibank fom merging with a big insurance company like Prudential.
I confess, I do well in the stock market but it is tough when the chips are stacked against you. Knowing the government allowed those chips to be stacked really pisses me off.
 
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I think some of you "right-wingers" should reflect on the contents of this and some of the other related threads. To preface, I consider myself conservative. I voted for Santorum, and will vote for romney in the general.

Posting long-winded threats about what Obama is going to do if elected makes you sound like a kook. Why not discuss what has and hasn't been done in the last three years.

Making bigoted remarks about Obama supporters removes all your credibilty.

If you make these posts just to let off steam, just know that it damages others opinion of you. If you really wanna convince people or change minds in these internet discussions, try being a little more persuasive.

I'm not referring to every post in this thread, but I was very discouraged after reading it. Be a positive influence; not a hateful fear-monger.

Well, because it was really two different posts, I guess I've made the longest post in this thread. So I''ll presume that your comments are directed at me. It's ok, I'm a big boy and can take criticism. Frankly, I don't agree with you, but you're entitled to your opinion.

Thank you for your vote for Santorum. He was one of my favorites. And thank you for your announced forthcoming vote for Romney. Your Country will be better for it.

"Posting long-winded threats about what Obama is going to do if elected makes you sound like a kook. Why not discuss what has and hasn't been done in the last three years."

You need to understand though that my fears are not for what has been done in the past 3 1/2 years. My fears are for the future. I don't look at it as making a threat. I look at it as a fairly intelligent PROMISE of what will happen to our Country if we re-elect him. He's laid most all of the groundwork allready in his first team. If he gets re-elected, and doesn't have to worry about the chores of being re-elected, he can (and will) devote all of his time to implementing (through executive orders, czars and unelected departments) his ideas for "fundmentally transforming America". He will turn us into a Marxist state. I, for one, don't want to live in a Marxist state. I fought in Vietnam. I saw first hand what communism is all about. I saw the bodies.

Many people don't know what Marxism is, so here, according to Webster, is a short defination: Marxism is the political, economic, and social principles and policies advocated by Marx; especially : a theory and practice of socialism including the labor theory of value, dialectical materialism, the class struggle, and dictatorship of the proletariat until the establishment of a classless society.

Did you catch that line about dictatorship of the proletariat? (We, the people, are the proletariat). See, the problem with that is that establishment of a classless society never happens. There will always be classes. The elite will always think they are better than us, that they should be at the top, with the best of everything and thinking that it's the job of the rest of us to supply it to them. If we don't, if we speak out against them, they kill us. They rule by fear That's what has happened in every dictatorship throughout history, without exception, and it will happen here also. So yes, the future scares the sh!t out of me. If you think that makes me look like a kook, then I wear that mantle with honor and pride.

"Making bigoted remarks about Obama supporters removes all your credibilty".

I'm not a bigot, and I've never made or read a bigotted remark here about any supporter that I'm aware of, so I'm not sure where that came from. Perhaps you can give me an example?

"If you make these posts just to let off steam, just know that it damages others opinion of you. If you really wanna convince people or change minds in these internet discussions, try being a little more persuasive".

I make these posts because I view myself as a patriot. A man that deeply loves his Country and the freedoms it stands for. I don't make them to let off steam. I make them to try and let others see what has been happening to their Country and why it has been happening. Hell, it's never going to be reported in the mainstream press, so unless people like me make these types of posts a large segment of the population will never know what's about to befall them until it's too late. I'm not a great orator, nor really good with words like Willy, so you'll have to forgive me for being long-winded. But you need to understand that I'm trying to be as persuasive as is humanly possible. Don't criticise my words, listen to the thoughts behind them.
 
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