Removing Sea Drive

Skools Out said:
you should only need a baystar or same style steering cylinder at the outboard.
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Hey Skools and others, now that I finally have my engine (96 200hp oceanrunner), once I pull off the sea drive, what do I have to do regarding a hydraulic pump? I understand what Skools said above about only needing a sea star steering cylinder, but is that all I really need? Don't I have to somehow remove a hydraulic pump from the sea drive and remount it or something? I'm so green to all of this that I'm not even sure the hydraulic pump is in the sea drive component. But there has to be a pump of some kind, right?

I'm confused ???

I ordered a lifting eye for my engine last night ($50 :-/) Once I get it, my brother and I will be going to town on getting some work done on my baby. I'll try to remember to take pictures along the way.
 
Steve, as Skools mentioned earlier, you'll need SEA-Star for a 200 hp...did you get the steering system new?...if so, it should be complete w/ all you need including a new helm...the helm is the ''pump'' and no other should be needed ;) ...good luck w/ the whole project ;D ...
 
Thanks for the post RAP.

There was a Sea Star cylinder and hardware for sale on Ebay that I thought I might have been able to get inexpensively, but it got out of my reach. I was going to try and keep the helm from the sea drive and use the Sea Star cylinder with it...

So, another question to reveal more of my ignorance: how is the pressure built up for the hydraulic system? Does the helm have an electric pump inside of it? Still a bit confused :-[

I'll probably just go with a no feedback steering kit and call it a day...
 
It works by "direct displacement" in a sealed system. When you turn the helm it pumps the hyd. oil one way and draws it from the other direction. If you had power stearing the helm would be controling the fluid pumped by a power stearing pump.
 
Best'o'luck with the conversion. Please keep us posted. I'm getting close to repowering my '20 from the 165 I/O.
What kind'o bracket you using? TIA
 
Hey Hammerhead, I'm installing a Gil bracket that I'm buying from Kamikaze.

My Dad was kind enough to take the time to come out and help me with this project.  He's the one in the pic.  

Okay boys, here's where we are at after a day and a half of playing around with that stinking Sea Drive.  Now, I know why guys get rid of them.  I couldn't imagine trying to work on one of those things!

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Hey guys, what would you recommend to use for filling in the hole left from the Sea Drive?  What about the the smaller holes where the mounting bolts were?  We plan on keeping the hole at the top to run the cables and lines through.  Let us know what you think when you get a second.  Thanks guys...
 
B.G. Great pics. Glad to see that you are working on her.
The transom looks pretty solid and thick. As far as patching, I can you plan on wetting and bounding several pieces together to get the same thickness, once you have that, slde her in the hole and cloth over it with West System, both inside and out of the transom.
Dont stop now, get out the grinder and keep working.
;D ;D ;) ;)
 
Go get a 2'' Shop-Vac hose to run all your wires thru comin' outta the transom ;)...works like a charm and looks great ...perfect for your application... 8) ...
 
for the screw holes use a wooded dowle soaked in resin, hamer in and cut iff when dry.

I would fill both holes as when you have the bracket on it will
one, seal the bracket for floation,
Two is you ever get a leak from the bracket it will fill the boat in no time!

To fix the holes I would glass from the inside of the boat to cover the hole, then you can cut ply, coat with resin and cloth and fill from the outside.

Then run the wires and stuff thur a new transom hole and vac hose, like this:

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Thanks for the tips MJ. Will do. Cutting a new hole makes a lot more sense; a lot less turns for the cables and wires; straight run to the back. I like it. Also, great idea about using the dowels. Hey, no matter what CB says, you da' man MJ. ;)

We tried using that Tal-Strip paint remover on the transom to remove the bottom paint to get things ready to be painted when the glass work is completed, but the Tal-Strip didn't work too well for us. Don't know why... We did just as Skools recommended, but it looks like the bottom paint has pretty much stained the hull. We will try to clean things up a little better with acetone, but it looks like we'll be painting the transom. Here are some pics from today...

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good job. looks like ur moving right along. dont ya hate all those unexpected little hangups! keep at it and good luck.
 
Well, here's some of the progress we've made this week. Sorry about the pictures at the end that were taken in the dark and rain, but I figured it was better than nothing for now. I'll take a few more in the daytime once Ernesto gets out of the way.

We installed 3 layers of plywood totalling one and a half inches thick, then glassed over.

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This is a shot inside the transom area behind the back seat...

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Then, we sanded the glass, filled in with surface putty, sanded and painted with poly. Not too shabby, huh?

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Then, we installed the Gil bracket that Kamikaze so graciously sold to me. By the way, thanks again Kamikaze for the pointers and the aluminum...

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How much did the bracket cost? I have a V-20 center console that pretty open in the back and I would like to close it all the way in and then mount the bracket. I am alway afraid of getting a wave over the back and swamping the boat.
 
Axes,

I paid $150 for it, but that's only because Kamikaze gave me a good deal. Other brackets will cost you anywhere from $350 for a used one to $1200 or more for a newer one with swim platform.

D&D Marine brackets (http://www.dadmarine.com/) seem to be the least expensive from what I was able to tell when I was shopping around.

Steve
 
I got my bracket a Stainless Marine, with full swim platform.

It was a take off!! Go to some mariners around your area, and ask if they have one laying around!

Cost new was $1500 I paided $400 Keep checking your local paper they are allover the place!!

Good Luck!!


Good work Bygracealone!!
 
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